Episode 75

52 mins

Making Adjustments - Are Hands-on Assists OK? Pt 2

February 23, 2020

In the second part of our two-part special on hands-on assists, we go a little bit deeper!

We hear how a trauma-informed context may change our approach to assists from Mei Lai Swan, then Amy Wheeler tells us about transference and countertransference and what role they might play when teaching yoga.

We learn how culture, race and gender can change perceptions around touch from Jesal Parikh, Gail Parker, Michelle Cassandra Johnson, Tim Seutter and Anu Fox.

Finally, we hear some conclusions from Leigh Blashki, Matthew Remski and Dominique Salerno.

While creating this episode we gathered over 4 hours of audio, which will be available on our Patreon page for free! For more details go to: https://www.patreon.com/flowartistspodcast

Links
Dominique Salerno: https://australianyogaacademy.com/
Leigh Blashki: https://www.yogaaustralia.org.au/yoga_user/leigh-blashki/
Matthew Remski: http://matthewremski.com/
Jesal Parikh: https://www.yogawallanyc.com/
Tim Seutter: https://yogafire.tv/
Michelle Cassandra Johnson: https://www.michellecjohnson.com/
Gail Parker: https://www.drgailparker.com/
Anu Fox: https://www.yogaaustralia.org.au/yoga_user/anu-fox/
Queer and Trans Yoga: https://www.facebook.com/queerandtransyoga/

You can hear part 1 at: https://podcast.flowartists.com/episodes/making-adjustments-pt-1/

Thanks to Danielle Lara Woolley for the cover photo: https://www.instagram.com/this.wild.soul/

Highlights

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2:05 Support us on Patreon
2:45 Jo discusses her Trauma Informed Training
3:58 Mei Lai Swan - A Trauma Informed Perspective
5:56 Trauma informed teaching
6:07 Mei Lai Swan - Assists in a trauma informed context
8:48 Mei Lai Swan - Assists in a studio setting
9:05 Consent cards
12:16 Mei Lai Swan - power dynamics
13:26 Amy Wheeler - Transference
16:34 Amy Wheeler - It’s the teacher’s responsibility
17:50 Power dynamics between teacher and student
23:32 Touch from different cultural perspectives
23:55 Jesal Parikh - A South Indian perspective on touch
26:16 A passage from Gail Parker’s upcoming book - Restorative Yoga for ethnic and race-based trauma
28:40 Michelle Cassandra Johnson - Asked to be a different way.
31:00 Michelle Cassandra Johnson - Power and Responsibility
32:34 Tim Seutter - A cis-male perspective
35:42 Anu - a non-binary or transgendered perspective
37:50 Different modalities
39:08 Leigh Blashki - dual modalities
40:45 Matthew Remski - A positive experience
46:00 Matthew Remski - Touch is like a flashpoint for agency
46:58 Leigh Blashki - Some conclusions
48:40 Dominique Salerno - some final thoughts
49:55 Conclusion
51:30 Next Episode Renae Stevens

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